.

Democrats' Attacks Subside at Forum

At fourth debate in five days, Sheyman’s attacks on Schneider ebb as Tree takes jab at Sheyman.

With four debates in the last five days, to oppose 10th District in the Nov. 6 general election became more restrained toward each other Sunday.

Earlier:

became increasingly aggressive Wednesday at and then Saturday at the responding to attacks by for Schneider’s campaign donations to Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Highland Park) since 2002.

By Sunday, the subject was not raised at a League of Women Voters forum before more than 250 people at the , but , the last contender to make a closing statement, finished with a jab at Sheyman.

“This is not (Rep.) Jan Schakowsky’s (D-Evanston) district,” Tree said in reference to Sheyman’s continued classification of himself as a Progressive and supporter of the 9th District representative’s policies.

Sheyman Claims He Best Fits Tree’s Standard

Sheyman told Patch after the forum Sunday he was the best qualified candidate by Tree’s standard of being ready to go to Washington and get things done for the citizens of the district.

“I’ve organized for change,” Sheyman said. “I’ve brought people together to find common ground. I am the most qualified and ready to go to Congress.”

On Wednesday, Sheyman questioned Schneider’s loyalty to the Democratic Party because of donations made to Kirk. On Saturday, in front of more than 400 people, he did it again at a debate sponsored by the 10th Congressional District Democrats.

“You say you are a progressive,” Sheyman said to Schneider. “In 2006 and 2008 when I was working to get Dan Seals elected you were donating to Mark Kirk.”

Of the $32,030 Schneider gave to federal candidates over the years, $3,300 went to Kirk, according to the filings with the Federal Election Commission. Most of the rest went to people like ,  and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

“Ninety percent of my donations went to Democrats and 100 percent of my donations went to support the U.S.-Israel relationship,” Schneider said. “In 2004 I worked to get (former Rep.) Melissa Bean (D-Barrington) elected and in 2006 I helped elect a Democrat (to the House).”

Schneider Touts Work for Bean, Hill

Schneider was referring to his efforts six years ago on behalf of , a Congressman Schneider had supported since 2000. “That helped take back the House,” he said. In 2004, Bean ousted 30-year veteran Rep. Phil Crane (R-Wauconda).

With the first question Sunday asking the candidates to explain why they were best suited to carry the Democratic banner against Dold, the fourth contender, , claimed he had the best resume.

“My background,” he said. “I have the most diverse experience. I have been a federal regulator working at the Federal Reserve Bank. I taught in Compton, CA. I fought to prevent a ban on stem cell research in Missouri.”

Sheyman touted his consistent record on progressive values. “Our campaign has the best ability to win this race because we convey a clear contrast to Dold," he said. “I have clear, consistent progressive values.”

Tree Touts Military Career

A 20-year military career and time in the business world are the reasons Tree believes he is best suited to win the general election. “"I've seen the economy from every angle,” he said. “We need to win by appealing to our Democrat base and by appealing to the middle. I can do that."

Schneider also claimed he can not only win over the independent voters of the district, but he trumps Dold on the Congressman’s own strengths.

“Dold claims he has a business background but mine goes deeper. I’ve had 30 years as an employee and a boss,” Schneider said. He explained the newly drawn boundaries are 34 percent Democrat, 26 percent Republican and 40 percent independent. “I can appeal to the independent minded.”

On a very local subject effecting Highland Park, Glenview and North Chicago, all four candidates want impact aid paid by the government to school districts educating military children to cover the complete cost of that learning. It currently does not.

Jon Hall February 27, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Being naturally curious two days in a row, I ventured to the LWV forum in Highland Park. Little changed overnight. 1. Sheyman 2.Tree 3. Schneider 4. Bavda. Tree was stronger, sharper, more focused than 1 day earlier. Schneider mumbled less, but his platitudinous style detracts from any sense that he's an authentic candidate with any originality. Tree has a sense of humor, but the tree jokes get tired after a day. Tree articulates his civilian and military qualifications and experience, much superior to Schneider's vague employment history and "family business consulting". Bavda, Tree, and Schneider fail to give any impression that they have organized well managed campaigns that can turn out enthusiastic voters. Schneider comes across like a candidate with 2nd or 3rd string DNC campaig resources His positions lack outside-the-box authenticity. He's just dull, and that won't pose much of a threat to the dolt. Tree has better answers than Brad, many based on experience, but you don't get the sense he has any effective political organization backing him this late in the game. Sheyman was a tad weaker than the day earlier, but still clearly the best candidate. Sheyman touts his campaign organization, and it's a very visible contrast to the other three. Brad has an organization, I sense he doesn't know how to harness it. Like him or not, Sheyman comes across as most prepared to turn out his voters. The others fail to project they have their arms around that all important facet.
Ellen Beth Gill February 27, 2012 at 04:31 PM
They say that the ground organization is what turns out the vote. I'm not sure about that because Dan Seals always had a fantastic ground organization of mixed demographics and from the district and still lost to little known Bob Dold. I've seen another field organization not work so well in my time. It was that of Howard Dean in Iowa in the primary in January 2004 when John Kerry blew him out after Dean was predicted to win by almost all prognosticators. Dean had hundreds of young men in the field knocking on doors. It turned off the voters. Kerry's field organization, albiet small, looked and dressed more like the folks in the neighborhood--not in race, but in age and professionalism. Sheyman claims 550 or so volunteers, but a lot of them are kids, really young kids more of high school age than even of college age. This isn't Rogers Park or Lakeview where much of Sheyman's support comes from. I'm not so sure these kids will be any more effective than Howard Dean's band of young men in Scott County, Iowa. Will they get out the vote or will they annoy district voters? If he can get out the Democrats, will those same volunteers move independents? Tree was right. This is not Jan Schakowsky's district.
Daniel Nussbaum February 27, 2012 at 10:41 PM
I agree that generally speaking, in a primary, especially a local one, the effect of a ground campaign is diminished, but it is still very important. Both Brad and Ilya have great field campaigns with Ilya's being slightly more developed. But most of Ilya's support is from outside of the district. I believe less than 10% of his donations are even from within the state, with even less from within the district. Ilya does not resonate with the people in the 10th, and that is the biggest barrier to success. Jon Hall again brings up Brad's debate performances. I have listened to the debates and I would disagree with you that he did badly in either of them. I would urge you to actually read Brad's positions on the issues instead of claiming that he lacks, "out of the box authenticity". I would argue that he is far more original and pragmatic than Ilya who simply repeats MoveOn.org and far left policies (not that this is always a bad thing). Brad has an advanced business degree and has spend his life working with small businesses and has the actual education to come up with real solutions. Ilya studied poli-sci and knows a lot about politics, but nothing about economics, businesses, or taxes. Of course Ilya is more organized as of late, his job with DFA and MoveOn.org was field organization. But as the weeks go on, Brad's campaign has grown to have a field organization comparable, if not better than Ilya's.
Jon Hall February 27, 2012 at 11:31 PM
That organization is inconsequential if not managed effectively. For example, last summer my wife insisted I escort her to a friend of a friends home where Brad was introducing himself. We haven't heard from the campaign since. His web site lists few events, Sheyman' lists many. We can't vote for Brad, so now we shop the other two.
flower child February 28, 2012 at 04:20 AM
Daniel! You keep telling us to read Schneider’s position statements. Fact is some people will say anything to get themselves elected. “I’m pro-choice and pro-environment,” Dold claimed in his 2010 campaign lit. “I’m a Progressive who will fight for [fill-in-the-blank] if you send me to Washington!” Schneider now claims in his lit. Fact is, while Ilya Sheyman was being a foot soldier for Obama's progressive agenda (healthcare reform, the Public Option, an end to the war in Iraq, a fair tax code), Brad Schneider was contributing to the campaign war chest of a certain Mark Kirk, who voted against every measure outlined above. No thank you! I am supporting the true progressive, Ilya Sheyman.
flower child February 28, 2012 at 04:26 AM
Ellen, Have you been to (one of) the Sheyman office(s) lately? I have and I can assure you that most of the hair you’ll see (when you see any) is gray.
Daniel Nussbaum February 28, 2012 at 04:44 AM
Flower Child, I will repeat what Brad has explained time and time again every time the Ilya campaign has attacked him: those donations were made in the context of Israel policy, and at the same time he made those donations he was working for Melissa Bean and for a Democrat (forgot the name) in Indiana. It is vicious campaigning and blatantly incorrect to perpetuate absolute falsehoods, and quite frankly I though we were above that. Brad has always supported woman's rights, and to say anything otherwise is a straight out lie. If you say that the support on a very specific issue means Brad agrees on every issue, then Ilya must be against Israel because he worked for Moveon.org. These types of claims are preposterous and negative politics will always catch up with you.
flower child February 28, 2012 at 05:10 AM
You call it “negative politics;” I am calling for some Truth-in-Advertising. Where I take issue with the Schneider campaign is in their **liberal** use of the word, "progressive." Like many who live in Dem-leaning households, we were at the receiving end of Schneider’s recent mail blitz. And in almost every single one of the dozen or so fliers they sent, Schneider referred to himself as a “Progressive”! Brad gave 1000s to Kirk and other Republican candidates. Progressive Democrats don’t give 1000’s to GOP candidates. Period. Not even if they give 10’s of 1000’s to Democrats. That—to use your word—would be preposterous to a true Progressive. Blue Dogs might donate to republicans. But Brad isn’t claiming to be a Blue Dog, is he? With Ilya, what you see is what you get. He doesn’t just talk the talk, he also walks the walk.
OldDanFan February 28, 2012 at 05:19 AM
Daniel, you say: "It is vicious campaigning and blatantly incorrect to perpetuate absolute falsehoods, and quite frankly I though we were above that. Brad has always supported woman's rights, and to say anything otherwise is a straight out lie." i say: You want facts? Fact: Dold called himself Pro-Choice (Anyone can say anything in their campaign lit.) Fact: Schneider is on record as having said that he would never support an anti-choice candidate. Fact: In 2000, as Governor of Nebraska, Mike Johanns signed a measure that made Nebraska one of 27 states to criminalize killing a fetus. Fact: Schneider gave money to GOP Senate candidate Mike Johanns in 2008. Fact: By 2009, GOP Incumbent Bob Bennett voted against women’s reproductive rights at least 8 times, including his vote of YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007) Fact: Schneider gave money to Sen. Bob Bennett in 2009. Fact: Dan Seals lost 3 general elections. Opinion: Why did Dan Seals lose? Voters did not see enough difference between Republican and the Democrat. We can’t let that happen again.
OldDanFan February 28, 2012 at 05:28 AM
Right on, FC Political junkie that I am, I was in the room during 3 of the township endorsement sessions plus one of the debates. Each time it was brought up that Brad had given money to Kirk’s campaigns, you could hear the gasps. When Dems find this out, they start looking around for another candidate to support.
Daniel Nussbaum February 28, 2012 at 05:35 AM
@OldDanFan I do not disagree with any of your "facts" but you fail to prove how these donations make Brad anti-choice when he has given 90% of his donations to Democrats. Your argument is illogical based on the fallacy of affirming the consequent. Yes, anti-choice supporters donate to anti-choice candidates. But donating to a candidate who happened to have supported anti-choice does not at all show that Brad is anti-choice. They agreed on the issue of Israel, woman's rights had nothing to do with it. By the affirming the consequent fallacy which you propose as valid logic, I could draw the following conclusions: Moveon.org has been anti-Israel Ilya worked for Moveon.org Ilya is anti-Israel It is a logical fallacy and a complete falsehood. Furthermore, your argument is also false on the premise of the "cherry picking fallacy" where you ignore all of Brad's donations to Democrats and only focus on a select few. If you do not use logic in your arguments, how can I argue against them? Just to show you how ridiculous this is, try to disprove my illogical argument above about Ilya and Moveon.org.
OldDanFan February 28, 2012 at 05:44 AM
Daniel, What makes you believe that MoveOn is anti-Israel? Cite your sources here please.
Tony Kovacs February 28, 2012 at 05:56 AM
Four Dems.-who cares who wins in March? If Dold does not win in Nov. , we are one vote closer to Speaker Pelosi again! And that leaves one less check and balance if Obama wins. That's the facts folks!
Daniel Nussbaum February 28, 2012 at 06:06 AM
@OldDanFan Well here is one source that shows moveon.org (or at least the people in it) saying anti-Semitic and anti-israel statements. Now keep in mind, I am not saying that moveon.org as a whole is anti-israel. But a portion of it is. And your entire argument that Brad is somehow "anti-choice" is based on broad generalizations ignoring the overwhelming facts. So if you can say that brad is "anti-choice" by ignoring the fact that over 90% of his donations are to Democrats, then I can do the same for Ilya. Do you see the point I am trying to make? If you want to look at Brad's donations as evidence that he a moderate, that may be a valid, but not necessarily correct assumption. But to say that he is "anti-choice" in the face of all the evidence to the contrary is just not true. http://husaria.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/moveonorg-israel-should-not-exist/
nsmom February 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM
As a progressive Democrat, it doesn't matter to me that Schneider donated to Kirk in the misguided belief that Kirk was better for Israel. He donated to Kirk, and Kirk lied to us about so many things. He said he was pro-choice while he sent money to strongly anti-choice politicians. He said he had inside information about WMD. He said he cared about the environment until he said he only supported cap & trade because it was in the interests of the district, then he was against it when he ran for Senate. Also, I've followed both campaigns closely and been to events for both Schneider and Sheyman. The only misrepresentation I have heard was from the Schneider side. Lastly, strong support for Melissa Bean is not heartwarming to most progressives. Look at her voting record - NOT progressive.
nsmom February 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM
The Schneider campaign gets angry, calls names, and makes false and nasty accusations, and this may be their strategy to divert attention from the truth. The truth is that Brad may be pro-choice, but supporting Republicans who are NOT pro-choice is still abhorrent to most Democrats. As is donating to Kirk. As is working for very conservative Dem Melissa Bean rather than helping a more progressive Dan Seals win in Brad's home district. Dan Seals was strongly pro-Israel, and it offends all of us who supported him for someone to say he wasn't - and isn't supporting Kirk saying Seals wasn't pro-Israel? Or pro-Israel enough?
Charlie February 28, 2012 at 02:55 PM
I understand what you're saying. I find the meaning of the word which is also the formal given last name of a current Republican Presidential Candidate (begins with an S) extremely distasteful and wish I didn't have to be reminded of what it means every time I hear him mentioned. As to the issue of the current 10th district incumbent, I suggest the more polite wording; The Hon. Robert Doldrums.
OldDanFan February 28, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Daniel, As far as your supposed anti-Israel MoveOn sightings, I see nothing here but smoke and mirrors. Same tactics were used to discredit the Occupy movement. At best, the whole anti-Israel wing (or feather, really) of the Occupy Movement is some fringe group sailing in on the coattails of the Occupy-ers, but more likely, they are plants paid to be there by Koch Bros., et al., who know that one way to defeat the OWS Movement is to drive a wedge, in this case a very demoralizing one. As far as your confusion concerning whether I am claiming Brad is "anti-choice": Let me strive for clarity: Fact: Schneider is on record as having said that he would never support an anti-choice candidate. Fact: Schneider gave money to GOP Senate candidate Mike Johanns in 2008, AFTER Mike Johanns, in 2000, as Governor of Nebraska, signed a measure that made Nebraska one of 27 states to criminalize killing a fetus. Fact: Schneider is on record as having said that he would never support an anti-choice candidate. Fact: Schneider gave money to GOP Incumbent Sen. Bob Bennett in 2009, AFTER Bob Bennett voted against women’s reproductive rights at least 8 times, including his vote of YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions.
Jon Hall February 28, 2012 at 05:48 PM
When did Patch become the house organ for the Morraine Township Republican organization? The lead on this article starts with the word Democrats. We all know who Dold is, where and why Dold falls short of average performance serving his district, and the obvious play on a word that contains 75% of his name, and has a definition which characterized his performance. I use the same word to describe Democrats every day. Would it be more acceptable if I used the word snob? In case Patch hasn't noticed, congress is polling at around 10% approval.
Harlon Katz February 28, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Seal's other issue is that he did not live in the 10th district. He lived in Schawkowsky's district, but would not run there. His was also not a case of "republicans" moving him out of his district like Democrats did to several republicans this time.
nsmom February 28, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Harlon, Dan Seals lived 2 blocks outside the district, in Wilmette (which was mostly in the 10th). His kids went to school in the district, his wife worked in the district, and he was involved in the community in the district. His house was in the district until the prior redistricting when the line moved a few blocks, and there are many congressmen who live outside their districts - the law requires they live in the same state. Anyone who would vote based on a candidate living 2 blocks outside a line has pretty pathetic judgment.

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something
See more »