Dold, Schneider Clash on Ryan Budget

Congressman and challenger take different approaches on taxes, Medicare.


A critical issue in the campaign for the 10th Congressional District seat between and his Democratic challenger, will be the House Republican Budget.

Just after the legislation passed March 29 , President Barack Obama criticized it. At the same time, presumptive embraced the plan and its author, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI).

With the issue front and center in the Presidential campaign, Schneider and Dold are staking out their own positions on two particular parts of the budget plan, tax reform and Medicare. They both agree change is necessary.

While Dold has indicated his openness to looking at a number of proposals he has made it clear the House Republican budget is intended to be revenue neutral, according to his Communications Director Stefani Zimmerman.

Schneider wants to examine budget cuts as much as possible as long as they do not put an excessive burden on seniors and middle class families. He makes no guarantee tax reform he would support would not increase tax rates. He wants to return to spending-revenue ratios of achieved during the administrative of former President Bill Clinton.

Schneider Guards His Red Lines

“I have red lines I will not cross,” Schneider said. “We have to cut as much we can. After that we can determine what the tax rate will be,” he added explaining his approach to comprehensive tax reform. “If you eliminate the windfalls and the shortfalls you’re doing a pretty good job.”

Dold is taking a closer look at eliminating loopholes in the Internal Revenue Code that let people pay less tax to make the reduced individual rates of the proposed budget responsible.

“This budget blueprint takes a comprehensive approach to pro-growth tax reform and puts every special interest and lobbyist loophole on the table.,” Dold said “I am willing to look at any serious proposal when it comes to comprehensive tax reform.”

According to Zimmerman, the proposed budget directs the appropriate House committee to put every special interest deduction and loophole on the table, study the impact of each, and determine which of the hundreds are harmful and should be removed.

Dold, Schneider Know Medicare Changes Are Necessary

Both Dold and Schneider agree Medicare is not sustainable in its present form and change is necessary. According to Zimmerman, the program will be insolvent in 12 years based on estimates of Medicare’s actuaries. Dold will change nothing for people over 55.

“Both budgets I voted for do not change anything for those 55 or older,” Dold said. “These budgets protect and preserve the benefits that seniors expect and deserve and strengthen them for the future.” People under 55 will receive vouchers to help pay for private insurance.

Schneider put the matter in a different light explaining the costs of health care are accelerating much faster than the costs of other goods and services in the country.

“Health care costs are increasing three to four times faster than the rate of inflation,” Schneider said. “The Affordable Care Act focuses on this.” He prefers these ideas a voucher system.

Dold likes elements of the proposed budget’s treatment of Medicare because it will give more to those with greater needs and the amount of the voucher will be tied to premium costs, according to Zimmerman.

Seniors with lower incomes would be provided with fully funded health savings accounts to cover any out-of-pocket costs. Payments would be risk-adjusted prohibiting plans from cherry-picking the healthiest seniors, according to Zimmerman.

When it comes to both Medicare and tax reform, Schneider makes it clear nothing can be done to make life harder on middle class families and seniors while benefits go to people with substantial means. “People who can least afford it should not carry the burden,” he said.

Sam Joesph April 13, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Dold has actually extended beyond his party lines on legislation. After seeing Schneider talk, and championing himself as a progressive warrior, my vote will have to go with Dold. I doubt Schneider will do anything constructive in DC. Dold's independent voting record can't be ignored: http://www.cq.com/graphics/weekly/2012/01/16/wr20120116-02prezsupport-cht4.pdf http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings2011/searchable-vote-ratings-tables-house-20120223 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bob_dold/412420
Mike April 13, 2012 at 04:22 PM
I'm in full agreement Sam... Too many members of congress follow the party line which increases the gridlock we have today. The future looks much brighter for all Americans if more like Dold are elected.
Anne Bert April 13, 2012 at 07:39 PM
I don't think Dold has done much outside the party. He talks as if he is bipartisan but his votes have been solid except in those cases where the party has let him off the hook, such as the transportation issue which is very important to residents of the north shore.
Ellen Beth Gill April 13, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Bob Dold just happily accepted an award from the US Chamber of Commerce, associated with the the oil industry, the tobacco industry, ALEC (those folks who brought Florida and several other states those "Stand Your Ground" laws, and American Crossroads, a Republican PAC controlled by Karl Rove and corporate interests. Anyone touting Bob Dold's independence is ill-informed or intentionally misspeaking or as we like to call it where I come from, lying.
Rich April 13, 2012 at 08:44 PM
The Ryan budget is a disaster. No new revenue, ambiguous cuts in tax loopholes for the wealthy but none put in the budget. It cuts Pell Grants, Stafford Loans and TAA grants to needy, smart college students. But the wealthy, like Romney, still pay only 13.9% in taxes. Homer thinks Ryan needs to stay in Wisconsin and quit throwing grandma off the cliff!
Sully April 13, 2012 at 11:58 PM
ALEC has done a lot more than just the Stand Your Ground law. The damage this group has done is incalculable. If Dold has any association with ALEC, he is no friend of the people.
Marc Feldstein April 14, 2012 at 02:03 AM
Last year Mr. Dold sent literature touting how he's a guardian of Medicare. I don't see how he can end Medicare and be its guardian. What about the people who are under 55 that are paying into Medicare? How can Dold look someone under 55 in the eye and say the government will break a promise thanks to me and say 'you're welcome?' Also, if government healthcare is so wrong, why have solely 5 Republicans in Congress recused themselves from it? Want to save money? How about not spending on salaries for Reps. like Dold and Walsh? Let's not break what's working for most seniors. Let's work on ending the UNFUNDED Bush tax cuts. Let's re-write the Bush Medicare Reform Act to both end the mark-up or minimum 14% profit the US government provides to PRIVATE Medicare Advantage plans (who's CEO's are making record bonuses). and to not BAN the government from being able to use the very same approach to volume pricing the average American has access to at Sam's Club and Costco and that the VA has used for decades under both Republicans and Democrats. Lets be smart, use facts, and not repeat the mistakes of the past. As evidenced by local GOP Members of Congress, the GOP Presidential candidates, and most local GOP'ers in general, facts and being sensible are not things they are ready to address, come to grips with, or handle in a diligent manner. Why does this manner? Its my money too. Will Romney put an elevator in the White House for his cars if he's elected?
Daniel Nussbaum April 15, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Then how come he votes with the party 84% of the time (http://wapo.st/HxvzXO). From the DCCC Dold Voted for the “Let Women Die Act.” Dold voted to allow hospitals to refuse to provide emergency abortion care, even when a woman’s life is in danger, and gives states the ability to undermine coverage of many health related services, such as contraception. Women’s rights activists had dubbed the bill the “Let Women Act.” (Vote #789) Dold Voted for Tax Cuts for Millionaires. Dold voted to provide $800 billion in additional tax cuts for the 300,000 people who make over $1 million a year. (Vote 277) Dold Voted Against Consideration an Extension of the Payroll Tax Cut for Working Americans. Dold repeatedly voted against the consideration of an extension of the payroll tax cut for working Americans. (Vote 870, Vote 902, Vote 889, Vote 918, , Vote 925, Vote 944) Dold Voted to End Medicare. Dold voted for a plan that ends Medicare. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the Republican plan would increase seniors’ out-of-pocket health care costs by more than $6,000 in 2022 and by nearly $12,000 in 2030. (Vote 277) Dold Voted to Protect Big Oil. Dold voted repeatedly to protect taxpayer subsidies for Big Oil — even while they’re making record profits. (Vote 153, Vote 109, Vote 277, Vote 293, Vote 676, Vote 810) Dold may be independent on some issues, but on the ones that matter he is no different than Joe Walsh or the other Tea Partiers.
Gary April 16, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Marc, I agree. Let's use facts so we can avoid making the same mistakes we've made in the past. Social Security: Inception : 1937 2% tax rate Today: 2010 12.4% tax rate Increase >6X rate increase since inception Assets $0 Unfunded Liabilities $5.3 Trillion over 75 years, $49,000 per household Medicare Inception: 1967 0.7% Today: 2010 2.9% Increase: >4X rate increase since inception Assets: $0 Unfunded Liabilities $13.4 Trillion over 75 years, $114,000 per household We seem to keep making the same mistake of putting in place giant social programs that make unsustainable promises with nothing but our children's check book listed as an asset. Those are facts. Ponzi schemes always seem like they are working... all the way up to the day they collapse. Let's not make the same mistake again. Stop Obamacare, and start reforming SocSec and Medicare into privately owned assets.
RB April 16, 2012 at 09:00 PM
I just saw where Missouri legislature is voting to reduce child care for the under privileged. This is taking place while hosting the NRA national convention. Somehow, the Republicans think if you are under 55, and have a gun...you'll never need vital safety nets established by Government. Mr Romney developed Obamacare and now you're trying to elect him President. Mr. Ryan wants a budget that taxes the healthcare premiums that companies pay for those of us fortunate enough to have a job where the employer picks up some of the cost. Under tax, under regulate, over arm, under support, over fear...the Republican's just don't get it or plan to really help all the God fearing folks they are trying to appeal to.
Ishmael from Vernon Hills April 18, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Boring Brad will lose. No worries.
Marc Feldstein April 19, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Wondering where Gary gets his information. I think that, as former Rep. Alan Grayson alluded to, it seems that Republicans like Gary would prefer that we have a truly Darwinian approach where if you can't afford a decent school, you don't deserve it. Where any program worth its salt over the past 7 decades that people of all political stripes have relied upon should end tomorrow. Where America gets further and further and further behind in the areas of education, healthcare, productivity, and something known as the greater good. This to me is a caste system that is the antithesis of why our nation was founded. To return to a nation that requires property ownership to vote, that has an official religion, and that does not have any (moral) responsibility to its citizens is not the America I know. Lets be honest, Reagan never consolidated these social programs, Bush, Jr. EXPANDED one of them, and Romney has done the same. Hey Gary, how's the elevator for your fleet of cars?
Gary April 19, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Marc, What assets are in the Social Security and Medicare programs? What are the outstanding liabilities for both of these programs? The people in Greece depended on their government for everything. Now where are they? I repeat, a Ponzi scheme always looks like the best investment in town... all the way up until the day it collapses.
Marc Feldstein April 19, 2012 at 08:46 PM
During the Reagan Administration, the government borrowed from Social Security funds without them ever being paid back despite multiple GOP Administrations and multiple GOP majority Congresses (fact). Also, it can be argued that if it were not for the lax approach to governance taken by the GOP, the financial industry among others wouldn't find themselves where they are today. If we invest in our people, we are productive to the point of returning to having 4-5 active workers to each citizen receiving Social Security; something they paid into. That is how the system was meant to work (fact). Its also similar to how private insurance works, by the way. This was before supposedly patriotic corporations preferred to hire elsewhere. Given that at least some of those corporations are finding its not such a bargain to do so overseas anymore (fact), I'd say that it would have been better to keep the US the manufacturing mecca it used to be than to pursue every last dollar; more than one can possibly spend (see Romney's elevators in his home FOR HIS CARS). Also, if we should not provide such benefits, the Bush tax cuts (spending) could also be considered a scheme. Let's prevent the government from earning money, lets 'hope' that the money will be used for the greater good, and lets spend like we still have those funds and/or like there is a money tree in the backyard. If THAT isn't a redistribution based on uninformed speculation, I don't know what is.
RB April 19, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Is anyone else having "pending approval" holding comments? I don't feel I abuse the system and do have a liberal tilt to my comments but nothing to warrant the censorship that the patch editor has suddenly undertaken. it takes hours to get a comment posted these days.
RB April 19, 2012 at 08:55 PM
This 'pending approval' status hold seems to apply to Deerfield Village related articles more than others. Dont dare mention all the money the Village spent on the underpass or you'll never get posted there. This posting thread seems to have instant posting. Is it just me, or do we had selective censorship going on at our little Patch?
Gary April 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM
... and here we see an excellent demonstration of ideology versus politics. I discuss ideas, for example, the Ponzi-scheme nature of Social Security and how it will enslave our children. Marc responds with politics and immediately sets out to destroy some member of the opposing party, like Reagan, Bush, or Romney. "Let's prevent the government from earning money..." That's a laugh! Governments don't earn money, and never have. They confiscate it from one group of people and use it to buy the votes of another group. Here we go again. He responds with politics, and I respond with ideas. I repeat, what are the assets and liabilities of SS and Medicare? Let's ignore how we got here for now... just tell everyone where we are now. Do you know? Do you approve?
Ellie April 20, 2012 at 03:08 AM
The whole Budget discussion is moot. As of two days ago, the Senate rejected the House Budget. President Obama may set another "first." He may be the only President in modern history to not pass a single budget in all four years! (That way no one will know that he has added five trillion to the US debt in only 39 months -officially as of April 18). Amazing achievement.
RB April 20, 2012 at 03:27 AM
No budget is required this year or next. It's all a show by both sides. Spending levels have already been set by law. The Republicans keep refusing to fairly tax Americans, fairly cut expenses and make a reasonable effort to maintain a safety net for the elderly, among others. The Ryan budget requires us to pay taxes on our benefits provided by employers...but they are the no new tax pledge people. Republicanproposed Changes to Medicare for anyone under 55 will have no protection against inflation in healthcare. If the voucher does not cover increased costs...tough! If you think healthcare costs are not rising....then you're not going to the Doctor. Bush tax cuts? Trickle down does not work, we had eight years of it. Message to the right wing.... Barack Obama is President, get over it and allow him to Govern. Ronald Reagan passed 11 tax increases, was pro choice as Governor of California and was a heck of a lot more sensable than his right wing admirers are today.
Ellie April 21, 2012 at 02:03 AM
RB, There ARE legal requirements: Both the House and Senate must pass the budget resolution (by majority vote). The Budget Act requires that this must be done ANNUALLY by April 15. Last week Democrat Chair of the Senate Budget Committee, Kent Conrad, went back on his commitment. Nothing was approved.
Mike April 22, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Ellen you sure are the bitter one... No good comes from full tilt negative comments. The far left and right has put the entire country in this mess. I hope I don't live where you come from...
Ellen Beth Gill April 22, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I'm with RB on this one. Congress hasn't officially passed a real budget since 1997. In 2009 there was an omnibus spending bill, but that's not technically a budget. The country is really run on Continuing Resolutions often called minibuses and get passed every few months. That's not to say there shouldn't ideally be a budget, but it is disingenuous for Republicans to insist on their budget when they haven't compromised on any of the Democratic budgets since 1997.
Nightcrawler June 23, 2012 at 03:07 AM
Nor have the Democrats in senate buged either, so if you are going to call out the Republicans, you have to do the same and say the Democrats haven't either. The House repeatedly keeps coming up with ideas that would save the country money and reduce the deficit, but the senate, controlled by those you support, have repeatedly blocked legislation, so don't act like Republicans are ignoring these deadlines.


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