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Dold, Schneider Disagree With Walker

Congressman and his opponent see importance of collective bargaining and equal pay in the workplace.

and his Democratic challenger, , found more areas of agreement than grounds for difference in the policies of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who spoke in Lincolnshire Friday.

Walker’s legislation paring back collective bargaining rights last year brought more than 200 union protesters to greet the governor, who spoke to over 600 cheering members of the Lake County Republican Federation celebrating their organization’s 50th anniversary Friday.

Last year Walker pushed legislation through the Wisconsin legislature eliminating most collective bargaining rights for public sector workers and this year signed a bill repealing the state’s equal pay act.

When it comes to collective bargaining and equal pay for equal work between men and women, Schneider and Dold are closer to each other than either one is to Walker.

“It is important for unions to be able to collectively bargain for their members,” Dold said. “The referendum (on Walker’s policies) will likely be resolved by the people of Wisconsin,” he added referring to the pending June 5 recall election facing Walker. “It will be decided shortly.”

Schneider’s thoughts were not much different. “I’m disappointed and disturbed that Gov. Walker has attacked collective bargaining rights which ensure that workers like teachers can negotiate for middle-class wages, healthcare benefits, and retirement security," he said.

When it comes to equal pay for equal work, Dold and Schneider were even more emphatic in their belief that everyone should be paid on merit regardless of gender.

“Governor Walker’s decision to repeal Wisconsin’s Fair Pay Act, not only eliminates important protections for women in the workplace, but it hurts our path to economic recovery,” Schneider said.

“Lack of pay equity hurts all of us (women, men and children) in the workplace and in our communities,” Schneider added. “It’s simply out of touch with the values and interests of everyday people.”

Dold was much more personal in his response to the question of both men and women being treated fairly in the workplace.

“I have two daughters, a wife and three sisters,” Dold said. “Equal pay should be something everyone can depend on who works.”

William d Brown April 23, 2012 at 01:56 PM
And we have SOOOO many bad teachers in our area. BTW you know how a FEW get to retire with a heavier than most others? By either being really "good" and valuable to the Administration or by favoritism Which is in the eyes of the beholder. Hence the real benefit to the community, of a union Attacking teachers is An old canard of the reactionary right Also Dist 113 is NOT union. Attacking a worker who began to set aside 10% of their salary in 1982 when theDJA was around 1200 is kind of interesting Seems right wingers only are happy when the very rich do well. Socialism for the wealthy POVERTY FOR THE WORKER. YOU always quote the aboration of the one guy with a favored retirement You never quote the average retirement. Research that for your Fox news/GOP talking points.
Bruno Behrend April 23, 2012 at 02:03 PM
The "average retirement" is nearly useless, as it contains people who retired years before the obscene abuses like pay spiking, double dipping, and early retirement. These abuses are creating a gusher of funds draining out of pension funds. This is not about teachers alone, but the entire "public employee mindset" plaguing America. More employees, with bigger paychecks, unsustainable perks, and unwarranted pensions, all draining states of revenues, services, taxpayers, and businesses. You have no leg to stand on. Schedule a debate. Invite your friends. The facts will shock the audience. Here is the truth. You can't fund a child's education when you are busy funding an unsustainable education bureaucracy. The same is true for other government services, the providers of which have 7 billion in unpaid bills while tax increases go to back fill piggish pensions for a bloated class of greedy public employees. Schedule the debate. I'm right, you are wrong.
Sarah H. April 23, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Scott Walker wants to give public employees the right to opt-out of a union. They won't be FORCED to join, like they had been. That seems pretty fair to me.
William d Brown April 23, 2012 at 02:17 PM
This is endemic of the right Destroy the worker Belittle Play to those who didn't participate in saving for retirement Make their jealousy your ally. All the while do your best to destroy public everything and privatize making PROFIT the bottom line for everything Socialism for the wealthy Poverty for everyone else. If you righties were in charge in ww2 we would be speaking GERMAN TODAY
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 02:27 PM
This is true, and the only job Illinois has kept are one that the rest of us have to help pay for. When are the people of IL going to wake up, Illinois democrats are made up of limousine liberals and union thugs.
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 02:30 PM
I think FDR was right, and a number of other Democrats from way back. You simply cannot have state or federal workers unionized. Who do they collectively bargain against? They're bargaining against the people. Who is it that pays the state workers?
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 02:32 PM
The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.”
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Governor Walker’s plan reasserts voter control over government policy. Voters’ elected representatives should decide how the government spends their taxes. More states should heed the A.F.L.-C.I.O. Executive Council’s 1959 advice: “In terms of accepted collective bargaining procedures, government workers have no right beyond the authority to petition Congress — a right available to every citizen.”
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 03:23 PM
One more point apparently both Mr. Dold and Mr. Schneider have not read the Wisconsin Equal Pay Enforcement Act. There is no great sex-discrimination problem in Wisconsin workplaces that is not being addressed by federal law and preexisting state laws. Between the EEOC, the federal courts, and the Department of Workforce Development, workers in Wisconsin who face sex discrimination have plenty of options for being made whole. There is no reason to add state circuit courts to the mix and hand them the authority to award massive punitive damages. The Wisconsin legislature was wrong to do so in 2009, and Governor Walker was correct to repeal the law......
Gary April 23, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Actually, if we righties like Churchill, Reagan, or Bush had been in charge in 1935, WWII never would have happened because we would have executed a pre-emptive strike on Hitler and stopped him before he got strong enough to dominate Europe, and all the while the lefties would have been screaming about how we're war mongers and murderers, military industrial complex, etc, etc, you know the drill... but that's off topic. Here's my view of what's going wrong with the budgets in most states. State employee unions have gotten so powerful that no other political force can stop them from taking control of the State governments. Then they negotiate with themselves and vote themselves bigger and bigger pay, retirement, and benefits packages, with the belief that there is a never ending supply of money be taken by force from their neighbors. In Illinois they got so strong that they passed a Constitutional amendment that makes it impossible to change their benefits after they retire, while at the same time voting in people who refused to prioritize the budget to make sure the retirement funds had enough money. In Billy Brown speak: The unions are too powerful Governments can not manage retirement/medical/savings accounts Ever They have no motivation to think long term never will Illinois has no Governor Walker Raising taxes will fix the federal problem? Why didn't raising taxes fix Illinois? Illinois is in a death spiral We WILL crash
Jack Straw April 23, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Honestly Forest I don’t know how you will ever get elected to any office if you keep using analytical thinking…LOL.
forest barbieri April 23, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Joe: I was told by someone much more politically savvy than I, that one of the major reasons I lost is that I addressed the issues. It was never my intent to be a politician and I could never follow a course just to get votes that I did not believe in. I think your self respect and values are much more important than doing or saying things to get elected. Thus,you are correct, I likely would never be elected :) The good news is that the community choose my very worthy opponent, who is an asset to the position and spends many dedicated unpaid hours serving the community.
william brown April 23, 2012 at 06:36 PM
Walker has led the nation in job LOSS turned down transportation infrastructure projects And is Now promising to fix unemployment AFTER the recalls He has a secret plan Maybe it's just like Nixons secret 72 plan To end the war in Vietnam
william brown April 23, 2012 at 06:51 PM
Oh and Gary America couldn't have invaded Canada in the 30's During the last GOP depression we were a 3 rate power. You righties talk a game While you send the poor to war. You sir are a fraud For supporting the anti American economic rapist right Your crowd has been trying to undo the protections put in place to protect America from another GOP led depression for 30 years. You view working people , soldiers, teachers, unions As pawns to rob from. You hate Social security, Medicare , right to bargin. Public schools. A women's right to chose. But love the fetus , private schools , and you love polluters. As long as they only pollute the poor.
Bruno Behrend April 23, 2012 at 07:20 PM
What a load of gibberish. Get off your Move On, Michael Moore talking points. Stop being their pawn.
Gary April 23, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Bill, Thanks for that. OK folks. Now you have to decide. Do you want our government managed by people who think like Mr. Brown?
william brown April 23, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Your Rovian/schoolyard taunts I am rubber your glue Just don't cut it I sense you didn't do well in Civics, Or Econ As Bill Cosby said RIGHT! Very Right !
RB April 23, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Bill you nailed it!
Gary April 23, 2012 at 08:35 PM
RB, I agree completely! Thank you for that unsolicited testimonial. I knew liberals everywhere would be cheering that post. Billy is the perfect embodiment of today's liberal: Politically Intellectually Educationally Rhetorically Emotionally It's all right there in that post for all to see... take a good look everyone.
morninmist April 23, 2012 at 08:56 PM
It is easier and less expensive to sue the state courts vs the Federal courts. You forgot to mention that important factor.
Gary April 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM
What's more likely, that Dold is the monster Billy portrays in his post, or that Schnieder will be another tax and spend liberal who will make more unsustainable promises with other people's money? Which view of the world is correct?
Dan Pritzker April 24, 2012 at 01:59 AM
The new 10th district adds 2.8 points leaning Democrat. We were leaning Dem by 3 points already. We are the most Dem district in the country with a GOP rep.The last election based on the new map would have Seals winning with 52.7% of the vote. This is a Presidential election year and with Romney having no chance to win in Illinois, Schneider is in a great position to win considering many GOP will stay home. Dold people can plant comments like they have here but it won't work. No more Winnetka,Kenilworth or Wilmette to vote for Dold. Hello 10,200 new minority voters and 5500 new first time Hispanic citizen voters. Goodbye to 26000 white North Shore voters. The Gop/Tea Baggers can bloviate but the numbers don't lie. Keep up the propaganda Dold but we are a solid Dem district now. God Bless.
Jack Straw April 24, 2012 at 02:14 AM
You bet trust fund babies shall lead the way, rock me in your bosom, your warm milk makes me feel so good.
RB April 24, 2012 at 03:00 AM
Signing silly pledges helped him before. Will his new 'moderate' PR campaign help this time around? Doubtful. Did he have much to say at the Republican Federation meeting? Wouldn't dare share any of his new 'moderate' leanings with the Federation. Lake County Republican Federation? I still get a kick of that name. Sounds like they should all have uniforms and march in a parade.
Daniel Nussbaum April 24, 2012 at 07:35 AM
You are only partially correct about the 77 cents on every dollars statistic. It compares the median of the woman's salaries to the median of the men's salaries. So in that sense, yes, over 50% of woman are above that median. Here is why you are wrong though. I looked up the most recent census data that I could find on it which says that the standard error of the male wages is 147 with a median value of $47,127. For the females the standard error is 105 with a median value $36,278. Because standard error equals (standard dev)/sqrt(n), I can use the data and plug in the population which was given to find that: for men the standard deviation is: $34,803 and for woman it is: $21,828 So from this information I can calculate the z-score of woman who make more then men which is .497 approximately. Converted to a percentage, the percent of woman who make less than a man is 69%. Put simpler, only 31% of females make more than males. So even though you are right they use medians, medians are a good measure of tendency in this case which is why they are the measure used for wages. If 69% of woman make less than the average man then there is a problem with out system. And yes, some of it is attributable to non-discriminatory factors. But even when they control for occupation, age, etc. they have still found that woman make less money.
william brown April 24, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Dold votes as he is TOLD by Grover Nordqvist Eric Canter and dick Armey
Gary April 24, 2012 at 01:49 PM
"... many GOP will stay home." Nope.
Bruno Behrend April 24, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Brown is down with every adjective, verb and noun, as given by MoveOn, Michael Moore, Media Matters and other rank propagandists of the left.
Ellie April 25, 2012 at 02:51 AM
I have been following Wisconsin news (on WTMJ Milwaukee, am radio 620) for over a year. Here are a few of Gov. Walker's STUNNING accomplishments (eat your heart out Gov. Quinn) : 6.8% unemployment, the first lowering of school property taxes in over a decade, AAA bond rating, structural ending of the 3.6 billion dollar state deficit - by requiring public employees to finally contribute toward their pensions, and a little more for their healthcare. Unlike Illinois, Gov.Walker did NOT raise corporate or individual income taxes, or cut programs, or close prisons and facilities for the disabled. There were NO major public worker layoffs in Wisconsin. And public employees are STILL paying LESS toward their benefits than the average worker in the private sector! By the way, Gov. Walker PRAISED private unions and did not touch them. And the WI Democrat Senate just killed a major private jobs bill, an iron mine in Iron County, WI, because they hated to see Walker succeed again. It's called "Walker derangement syndrome".......
Michael FitzJohn June 03, 2012 at 09:50 PM
then why did he have to outspend everyone 23 to one? all your heros money comes from out of state! Soon You will be told how much you can make! women will be told what they can do with their bodies. If your a teacher and have an opinion which the governor doesnt like, your salary will be put in the newspaper and you will be urged to pull your child from the classroom. Gee I am glad I am not in your state!

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