Dold, Schneider Join Budget Debate

With scant support for bipartisan proposal, Dold votes for Ryan Republican budget. Schneider claims bill hurts seniors and middle class.

After joining a failed bipartisan effort to adopt a broad approach to rein in the country’s financial condition Wednesday, voted for the Republican House budget proposed by Thursday.

Dold’s decision to go along with the House Republican majority after the initial idea did not get much support from either party drew criticism from Deerfield management consultant in the Nov. 6 general election.

Dold joined a group of Democrats and Republicans to introduce a proposed budget for the next fiscal year based on recommendations two years ago by President Barack Obama’s deficit reduction commission, known as the Simpson-Bowles Commission.

The latest rendition of a bipartisan approach to the budget, know as Cooper-LaTourette, lost, 382-38.

“I support the Cooper-LaTourette budget because my constituents are crying out for us to find common ground and advance solutions on a bipartisan basis,” Dold said. “I was pleased to work with some of the Democrats on this serious proposal that puts everything on the table for discussion.”

The idea coupled spending cuts and entitlement reforms with changes to the tax structure.

Schneider called Dold’s decision to back the House Republican plan, which passed with a 228-191 vote, “unfortunate” because of its treatment of Medicare and the undue burden it places on middle class and older Americans.

“We should not balance the budget on the backs of families and seniors who can afford it the least, especially while we keep giving out tax breaks to those who simply do not need them,” Schneider said.

Schneider would begin by ending favorable tax treatment for companies which transfer jobs outside the country, reduce subsidies to oil companies and eliminate military spending already approved by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

“I know with smart policy decisions, we can cut spending and balance the budget in common sense ways that protect the middle class,” Schneider said. “We have an obligation to our children to get our deficit under control as well as a duty to our seniors to protect Medicare.”

Recognizing the House leaves Medicare intact for those 55 and over, Dold joined his fellow Republicans voting for the proposal because it helps contain the country’s debt.

“I voted to support the Republican budget proposal because this blueprint provides a clear vision of what this country needs to do to get our skyrocketing debt and deficits under control and put us back on a path to prosperity,” Dold said. “I appreciate the importance of both looking at the big picture and the pragmatic need to find a way to get things done.”  

RB March 31, 2012 at 12:27 AM
David, this link may show where some of your confusion comes from. It seems Mr. Dold identified himself as a Tea Party Candidate in the Primary. He started changing his stripes for the General Election. He wanted them to start calling him a moderate. Sound familiar? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/10/15/us/politics/20101015-tea-party-groups.html
RB March 31, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Louis, the following link shows that Dold identified himself as a Tea Party Candidate first time around...later wanting to be identified as a moderate. no fib there. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/10/15/us/politics/20101015-tea-party-groups.html You described trickle down economics and you're right, I assumed your economic tax stance as the usual Republican Party line of putting money in the hands of job creaters will create jobs. If you don't believe that, you are correct. Demand creates jobs. I'm sorry for that assumption.
RB March 31, 2012 at 01:21 AM
While researching Mr. Dold's support from the Tea Party during his election I ran across an interesting tid bit. Mr. Dold voted to de-fund NPR.
Louis G. Atsaves March 31, 2012 at 02:28 AM
RB, Dold asked a tea party group NOT to rate him and the liberal NYT in ONE article felt that was proof he was a tea partier in disguise, and you call that proof? I remember that incident very well. Let's see how often Schneider demands the same from super liberal groups and I will be quick to turn the tables on him using that crazy logic. Where are the jobs? Ask Obama who didn't even bother to try to help the middle class until his approval ratings plunged. Ask Obama who hasn't prosecuted a Wall Streeter for causing the big crash, probably because the Wall Streeters donated to his campaign over McCain's by a 3-1 margin. Ask the poor and the middle class about those Obama policies that have now given us record high gas prices. So keep changing the subject. Obama must be shown the door and the Obama enablers like Schneider and Duckworth must be told "thanks, but we've had enough!"
RB March 31, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Louis, you changed the subject to Ms. Duckworth and I can't believe you support Joe Walsh. Makes me wonder just how 'moderate' your Mr. Dold could be to garner your support. My my
RB March 31, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Louis, regarding your wanting to defeat Ms. Duckworth. Did you catch what your candidate Joe Walsh said about Ms. Duckworth? I'll paraphrase it for you. "she's a wounded war vet, what else has she done?" Well, for one, she served the Veterans within the VA. Surprised he would minimize such a job. Mr. Walsh IS a Tea Party candidate and I don't think you're going to be able to dispute that. I guess is still have some difficulty with how you can help the District determine whether Mr. Dold is a moderate or not, when you support someone as extreme as Mr. Walsh.
Cynthia April 01, 2012 at 04:45 AM
RB and all of you defying logic. You are citing blogs. I am using INDEPENDENT STUDIES. Can you show me an independent study that shows he is a tea party republican. I will give you some studies to look at, maybe you will learn Bob Dold is moderate, working for the people of the tenth. http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings2011/searchable-vote-ratings-tables-house-20120223 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bob_dold/412420
Cynthia April 01, 2012 at 04:46 AM
Was it from another Blog? How about an independent study?
Cynthia April 01, 2012 at 04:46 AM
I am happy the people of the 10th don't believe the blogs, but rather independently done studies.
RB April 01, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Cynthia, the truth is the truth. Here's the link that will show the complete vote and that Mr. Dold voted to defund NPR....right along party lines. Go do some independent research and you'll find lots of info out there about Mr. Dold. http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/192
RB April 01, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Defying logic? Mr. Dold was endorsed by the Tea Party last go around. He would like us to forget it, but he was. Freedom Works? Front and center. Now, he is trying to come across as moderate. A moderate hoping to get votes on the North Shore typically does not vote to defund NPR. Joe Walsh could probably get away with it in his old district, but Dold in the 10th. Really? Can you show me some of your independent research that shows he did not vote to defund NPR? I'll show you mine....he did. Mr. Dold voted to defund NPR. http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/192
RB April 01, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Mr. Dold has received money from Koch. A moderate? Give me a break. Here's an interesting article about the Koch brothers.... http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/31/the-koch-brothers-and-the-theft-of-the-american-dream/
C April 01, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Can you show the 10th an independent study that supports your claims? Not a biased blog website?
RB April 01, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Independent study? No blogs? I really don't get it. Do your own research if you value your vote. Here's the data you requested, by the way. The 10th will appreciate knowing his 62nd largest contributor....Koch Industries! http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&type=I&cid=N00031103&newMem=N&recs=100
Sam Joesph April 02, 2012 at 11:52 AM
RB and Progressive extremists have been doing everything but supplying truth to the political discourse. Ignoring the facts, advocating for coercive action by the federal government, and supporting the diminishing of our freedoms have been a pillar of the left. http://www.cq.com/graphics/weekly/2012/01/16/wr20120116-02prezsupport-cht4.pdf http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings2011/searchable-vote-ratings-tables-house-20120223 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bob_dold/412420
RB April 02, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Dold voted to defund NPR, Dold took money from Koch Industries. What's not truthful about that? Progressive extremists? Compared to Koch Brothers right wing extremism? The Koch Brothers are funding the right wing dissolving of the middle class all in the name of 'freedom' the Democrats want us to keep our freedom (and NPR), the Koch Brothers and the right wing are trying to destroy it and basically just because it has some public funding. The freedom to choose? That's not one of the freedom's the right wing cares about is it? There is nothing extreme about my position.
RB April 02, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Coercive action by the Federal Government? That's a Tea Party line isn't it? Just what coercive action by the Federal Government have I advocated? Funding NPR? Is that coercive? Actually, the coercive act is de-funding NPR, which Mr. Dold tried to do.
Louis G. Atsaves April 02, 2012 at 01:59 PM
While RBI continues his wild spinning and bounces from issue to issue in a blind, incoherent style, let us return to a question I asked at the the start of this thread: Which budget plan did Schneider support? All that pandering and he never really said! Funny how the only ones still trying to claim Dold is a Tea Partier are using ancient surmisings back in the day when Dold was an unknown. Now that he is a known person with a record that the Tea Party is not happy with, the only ones calling him a tea partier are the serial fibbers around here. What is the next big lie? That in spite of his record, he has declared war on women, children, families and your little dogs too? In Greece they felt that government could take care of everything and fix everything through a wild spend and reckless borrowing policies. Kind of like the way the Democrats ran the governments in Washington and Springfield.
RB April 02, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Louis, a 'moderate' voting to defund NPR, accepting Koch Brothers funding, signing the Grover Norquist Pledge, allowing the country to default....does not get my vote and once the District sees his true conservative right wing positions, he'll be back spraying bugs.
RB April 02, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Mr. Romney says the Koch Brothers are the financial engine of the Tea Party. Why would Mr. Dold accept funds from them? Why would they pick Mr. Dold to fund? http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/11/03/360433/romney-koch-tea-party/
Dan Jenks April 02, 2012 at 02:51 PM
RB, can you say something nice about Dold? Like the fact that he, along with 37 other representatives, including Illinois Democrats Quigley and Lipinski, supported a bipartisan plan to reduce future deficits? See Trib editorial http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-quigley-20120401,0,930290.story Deficit reduction is the big issue, not NPR. My wife and I have been NPR supporters for as long as I can remember. I enjoy NPR. I don’t like the fact that Dold voted to limit how NPR uses its money – but the federal (and state) government often limits how private organizations (like Planned Parenthood, the Catholic Church, etc.) use public funds and this is no different. Were the context different – as part of a deficit reduction plan – I would even be okay with cutting NPR. It isn’t the end of the world. As for the Koch brothers support, did their $5,000 contribution buy our congressman? I hope that if Dold sells out, he is smart enough to ask for more money. Moreover, did the Koch Brothers support Cooper-LaTourette? Did the Tea Party? I would doubt it. Finally, I guess because people like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn support Barack Obama, the President must be in their pocket. If a “guilt by association” argument against a liberal sounds fallacious, it is probably equally fallacious when made against a conservative or whatever Dold is.
RB April 02, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Dan, I understand that Mr. Dold is positioned more moderately than some of the other Freshmen Republicans (JOe Walsh is much more extreme, for instance). Where I have the most trouble with Mr. Dold is that he has not released the District from the anchor of Grover Norquist. If he really wants a bipartisan solution to the budget crisis, don't you think that should include his ability to vote for a revenue increase? Whether or not you think a revenue increase is necessary or not, having a Congressman who has signed a pledge to Never vote for a revenue increase limits his effectiveness as a Congressman. If he thinks tax and budget reform could include a revenue increase, wouldnt he be better prepared to represent the District if he renounced his pledge? He probably signed the pledge to garner votes. He probably wants to come off as more moderate to garner votes this go around. Renouncing the pledge would go a long way toward that. He has some defenders on here who are Joe Walsh supporters. You may or may not be one. Defending Mr. Dold's moderate creditials would best be done by people who can better recognize them. Something nice about Mr. Dold? Yes, he has missed very few votes. He voted for the end of DADT (a truly moderate position) and later voted against the chaplain training issue related to DADT. An informed decision. His votes tend to skew toward middle. Other critical votes (NPR, budget deficit, for instance) he voted with the right wing Republican position.
Dan Jenks April 03, 2012 at 12:10 AM
RB, thank you for the nice comments about Dold. I'm still confused about Dold and voting for tax increases. Isn't that what Dold did by voting for Cooper-LaTourette? According to the Tribune, the bill would "[c]ut the federal deficit by more than $4 trillion during the next 10 years. About two-thirds of the reduction would come from spending cuts and one-third from tax increases." By my calculation, it seems that Dold voted for roughly $1.3 trilliion in tax increases. Doesn't this put an end to his pledge? What am I missing? Would it really be that much better if he said "I renounce the pledge" on top of voting for this bill? I think one has to have reasonable political expectations of candidates. I don't expect Dold to formally renounce Grover Norquist or the Tea Party, I don't expect Schneider to renounce anyone on the left. What I would like to hear from Schneider is his thoughts on Cooper-LaTourette and his willingness to buck his party.
RB April 03, 2012 at 01:00 AM
He does have a conflict. I don't know how he will resolve it. My understanding is that Norquist may plan to place candidates in races that have someone like Mr. Dold (if he were to renounce the pledge). It's probably too late for any impact from that, so renouncing the pledge may still be possible for him if he no longer feels the way he did when he signed it. Would that get my vote? No. Respect? Yes. I still see Mr. Dold voting with Cantor and Boehner when push comes to shove. it will also be interesting to see if he takes Koch Brothers money in the primary.
Deep Dish Pizza April 08, 2012 at 03:12 PM
The Republican Ryan plan that Dold voted for actually makes the debt worse with more tax giveaways to the uber-wealthy. Dold knew this bipartisan budget thing would go down in flames but at least he can use it like a prop so his vote record is only Tea Party 9 times out of 10 instead of 10 for 10. If Dold really was a moderate he would've voted AGAINST the Ryan plan out of principle (it would've passed anyway). But no. Dold voted for the Tea Party on the Republican Ryan disaster plan. AND he voted for it last year too!
Deep Dish Pizza April 08, 2012 at 03:15 PM
David - that was a throw away vote. 9 times out of 10 Dold votes with the Tea Party. Just like the Planned Parenthood vote last year Dold made a huge deal out of his "moderate" vote on a throw-away vote. Then he flip-flopped and voted with the Tea Party on the real vote (the final vote). Dold did the same thing here on this budget circus. Throw-away vote on a meaningless thing that he knows won't go anywhere so he can "appear" moderate and send out a bunch of press releases. Then on the real vote Dold flip-flops and votes with the Tea Party anyway.
Deep Dish Pizza April 08, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Poor sad little Louis. No matter how hard he tries to spin for his buddy Bobby Dold the facts don't lie. Dold votes with the Tea Party 9 times out of 10.
Deep Dish Pizza April 08, 2012 at 03:19 PM
RB - don't forget that in 2010 -- Dold told the Tea Party he's more conservative than he can admit to the public -- Dold forced the Illinois Tea Party magazine to make him appear more moderate when they did their candidate ratings -- Dold got caught by the Daily Herald for having his supporters spam comment boards with fake talking points (looks familiar like maybe he's still doing it to the Patch too) Dold can try to """appear""" moderate all he wants. His vote record shows he votes with the Tea Party 9 times out of 10.
Deep Dish Pizza April 08, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Dold votes with the Tea Party 9 times out of 10
Louis G. Atsaves April 08, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Wow "deep dish pizza" posted 17 times on this old article this morning alone. Posted nothing of consequence other than the National Democratic spin lines about Congressman Dold which are well short of being factual. Too bad even the Tea Party disagrees with the National Democrats on Dold's record. But clearly, Deep Dish will not be confused by facts in spinning those false talking points. Is "Deep Dish Pizza" a paid Democratic staffer with nothing to this fine Spring Easter morning? Hmmmmmmmm!


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