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Poll Results: Give Health Care Law a Chance

A majority of Patch readers responding to an unscientific poll want to give the Affordable Care Act a chance to work.

Give the Affordable Care Act (ACA) a chance.

That was the opinion of a majority of readers who responded to an unscientific Patch poll asking whether President Barack Obama’s health care legislation should be given time to season, be repealed or changed.

Of the 637 people who took the poll, 370 alone to see how it works, 198 want it repealed and 69 want to repeal objectionable parts and keep the rest.

, wants to change parts of the law keeping provisions like letting children under 26 remain on their parents’ coverage and prohibiting insurance companies from denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

, said after the Supreme Court decision no changes should be made before the law’s provisions are given a chance to work.

agrees with Schneider’s position praising the bill for already helping 86 million Americans. would like to see changes now.

There was no shortage of debate among Patch readers as the story introducing the poll motivated 212 comments with scores of opinions. Reader Richard Schulte is one who favors repeal.

“The truth is that a majority of Americans support the repeal of Obamacare,” Schulte writes. “Democrats say that they believe in majority rule. Well, the majority of Americans say repeal Obamacare. I agree with the Democrats on the issue of majority rule.”

Doug Daluga immediately responded to Schulte writing the vote Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) promised Monday will never reach the President’s desk for a signature or veto.

“Of course the house will vote to repeal the ACA,” Daluga writes. “The Republicans know it gives them cover with their supporters. They also know that it will go nowhere once it hits the Senate. It's yet another example of the Republicans wasting time on futile shows of partisanship.”

Other readers like Ken Smith like parts of the legislation but are opposed to the individual mandate requiring people to have health insurance under certain circumstances.

“I agree some parts such as the kids to age 26 and no pre-existing conditions should stay but the dang mandate telling millions who can afford it to buy it should go,” Smith writes. “I work in the industry and I know insurance companies are just waiting to charge much more in premiums.”

Another reader, Alan Nudelman, thinks the new law will help Americans in the same way Medicare assists older citizens.

“It's been 47 years since Medicare was enacted,” Nudelman writes. “I have not heard a single person or politician say it should be repealed. It's a blessing for people facing the rising costs of getting older. It guarantees medical care for people over 65 and some other groups as well.”

Fred Spagat just wants the bickering between the parties to end. “This partisan politics needs to end,” he writes. “We are not the United States of Republicans, nor are we the United States of Democrats.”

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Meg Hayes July 7, 2012 at 10:57 pm
This lesson in American History is over RB's head. Greed, power, and ego are some of the reasons we have such a high level of unemployemt, Made in America is a thing of the past. The generation of WW2 would have never tolerated our government in their day. That generation had pride in their country and fought to protect our rights. They followed the rules with immigration and waited their turn. My parents must be turning in their graves seeing what is going on today. They sacrificed for nothing. I wish they had spent their money. Wall street and the government got their savings, not their kids. The thing they fought for stole what they sacriiced to save.
Anne July 7, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Newsmax that source is as good as Breitbart...half truth's and lies....another conspiracy theory from the Roger Ailes/Ruper Murdoch propoganda machine that has hijacked the republican party....sad very sad...soon we will all pledge allegience to Grover Norquist...
RB July 7, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Lennie, the tax will be imposed upon that couple if they sell at a profit of over $250,000 and if their yearly income is over $250,000. There are much bigger fish to fry than this inflated non-issue.
RB July 7, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Lennie, I didn't say it was not okay to use them. Again, putting words in my mouth.
RB July 7, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Meg, your rankings are only over my head because they are difficult to follow. I agree greed,power and ego have a great deal to do with the fix we are in. Where have I said differently. I just object to many of you blaming Mr. Obama for problems that began long before he took office.
RB July 7, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Meg, I typed Rantings and autocorrected to Rankings. Most people probably understood what I meant, but I was doubtful you did...so, I said your Rantings not Rankings.
RB July 8, 2012 at 12:16 am
Richie, Did Newsmax have anything to say about Romney's support for the individual mandate as late as his Op Ed in USA Today in 2009? Did they mention how Mass. loves the healthcare system they have called Romneycare? Did they mention they are extremely glad Romney is no longer Governor and favor Obama by over 60%, since they have experienced Government under Romney. Did Newsmax mention Romney has offered few specifics on how he would replace the Obama reforms, although he said he would work to retain popular provisions such as blocking insurance companies from forbidding coverage of patients with pre-existing medical conditions.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll showed little change in the strong support for that and most of the other major provisions of the bill, including requiring companies with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for their employees and allowing children to stay on their parents' insurance until age 26. Boehner and Cantor want to gut the bill entirely. So, people like the coverage. It's when they are polled with a question like "hey, do you like that new Obama tax on healthcare?" that they get the results you described. When broken into individual components, people strongly like the Act. As real people begin to understand the benefits, and that the Republicans want to take away the good things for their families, it will poll better. The big mistake was waiting until 2014 for complete implementation so the right wing Insurance lobby can chip away at it.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 12:17 am
RB: "Kind of his own Patriot Act but completely illegal. comparing Ww1 and Ww2 to Iraq and faulting the Democrat for leading us through a just war is a real stretch made only by someone like you. Delusional."
RB, thank you for brining a smile to my face with your reference to "a just war". I'm sort of curious as to just what the definition of "a just war" is. I'll take a stab at it-a just war is any war prosecuted by Democrats, while an unjust war is any war prosecuted by Republicans. So the Viet Nam war was a just war until Richard Nixon became president, then it switched to an unjust war. Again, may I suggest that you will your brain to medical science for study. I'm sure medical scientists would be very interesting in studying the wiring of your brain.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 12:19 am
Facts are facts, regardless of the source. What Anne is telling us is that the Gallup Poll isn't a good poll because it was reported on by Newsmax.
The only source of truth comes from the Ministry of Truth, the Democrat Party. If it doesn't come from the Democrat Party, don't believe it.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 12:20 am
President Clinton: "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."
Yup, Democrats always tell us the truth.
RB July 8, 2012 at 12:33 am
Rich, youre putting words in my mouth again.....A just war as in WW1 and WW2, which I said you compared to what I would describe Iraq as....an unjust war. A just war is freeing Europe from the tyranny of Hitler as an example. Vietnam was not a just war, it was more like the Nation building Bush was wanting to do in Iraq, he did not learn from the mistakes of Truman, Eisenhower, JFK and Johnson (yes we had advisors in Vietnam under Truman and Eisenhower).
RB July 8, 2012 at 12:40 am
Richie, Newsmax brings a smile to my face. I had never been to their site. Really patriotic stuff there....like....
1)There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic. 2)David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics who writes engaging columns from a fresh, conservative point of view. Read David Limbaugh's most important commentaries on Newsmax.com. 3)Bill O’Reilly is an internationally known radio commentator who blends news analysis with investigative reporting. He has won a bevy of journalism awards and is a known author. Read some of Bill O’Reilly’s important commentaries on Newsmax.com. 4)FREE OFFER Sarah Palin's New Bestseller! ‘America by Heart’ Get Your FREE Copy Today! Gee, you're really getting some fair and balanced news there Richie.
Lennie Jarratt July 8, 2012 at 12:59 am
LOL, an additional tax is now a non-issue. LOL!!!!
Lennie Jarratt July 8, 2012 at 01:00 am
Sorry, RB, but you used snopes to try and prove something incorrect. I did the same with a fact checker (left leaning at that) to prove your statement on the Ryan budget as false and you disregard it. So, I had to assume you were ok with only fact checking when it agrees with you.
Lennie Jarratt July 8, 2012 at 01:08 am
LOL, as has been pointed out in another thread on the PPACA, it would have been cheaper to by insurance for all those that were uninsured than PPACA will costs. If PPACA was meant to truly help those in need, there were much cheaper ways to accomplish it than drive costs up, incentivise business to drop their employee health ins. coverage, etc. The whole pre-exisitng conditions was caused by HIPPAA in the first place. Repealing that would have taken care of that issue.
I am a small business owner myself. I could save $600/month by buying a policy from KS. I cannot join a co-op because they are not allowed here in IL. The gov't is getting in the way instead of helping those in need.
RB July 8, 2012 at 01:17 am
Lennie, no problem. I did read some of your links, my position that inflation in healthcare will impact future seniors is restated I your first link....."The Republican plan says they’ll go up based on the consumer price index for urban consumers and the beneficiary’s age. But Obama is correct in saying that the increase isn’t expected to keep pace with health care inflation. The CBO said in its April 5 analysis: “[T]he government’s contribution would grow more slowly than health care costs, leaving more for beneficiaries to pay.”
Today, Medicare has no cap, under Romney/Ryan budget a cap will develop for seniors as inflation in healthcare takes hold. It cuts social security, It favors big oil with $40 billion in tax breaks, It cuts education by 20%, It guts Pell grants, It ignores the wishes of the American People 70% who think the wealthy should pay more taxes.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 01:18 am
RB: "A just war is freeing Europe from the tyranny of Hitler as an example."
RB, could you tell me what the difference is between Hitler and Saddam Hussein? I can't wait for RB to respond on this one.
RB July 8, 2012 at 01:36 am
We had a pact to defend Europe and did not make up a story like WMD's to justify our involvement. Saddam deserved to hang. Hitler began exterminating over 6 million jews from Europe and had the capacity to overthrow most of Europe and perhaps eventually America. Iraq, We could not afford it and the threat to the homeland was not there. Saddam was your run of the mill horrible dictator easily overthrown with some CIA action or other methods such as strategic strikes or political means. Bush jumped the gun with World Trade as an excuse. Instead of getting Bin Laden in Toro Bora, he was fixated in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with World Trade and we wasted time, money and lives chasing a measly little dictator. Strangely, you compare WW1 And WW2 to Iraq and Vietnam as Wars started by Democrats....make that won by Americans. You're a partisan ideologically challenged but insistent little right wing blogger, with one vote that you continually waste.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 11:40 am
RB: "Gee, you're really getting some fair and balanced news there Richie."
Newmax is no different that CNN, MSNBC, ABS, CBS and NBS. If you haven't figured it out yet, all of the networks are biased. Oh yeah, I forgot, the left is not biased.
McCloud July 8, 2012 at 01:08 pm
I really don't care if Romney supported a mandate in the past, since he says he will repeal Obamacare. What I'd like to know is how much premium will an insurance company charge a guy each month with cancer who is ringing up hospital bills of hundreds of thousands a year. Will an IRS agent visit him in the hospital?
McCloud July 8, 2012 at 01:29 pm
Would it not make more sense to absorb the $695 penalty for not buying the insurance versus $12,000 a year to abide by the mandate, and purchase the insurance when sick? In 10 years you save close to $120,000, just asking.
J. Robert July 8, 2012 at 03:55 pm
Part 1: It is pretty clear that RB will not even consider the potential that Obama has failed and really is not competent nor should be given the opportunity to continue as president. All citizens should ask the basic questions...is the U.S. better off since he was elected? Has he delivered the turnaround that he promised during his campaign? Has he adhered to the transparency he promised? Has he behaved as a president or more like a Cook County politician who has never stopped campaigning?
Stop bringing up and blaming Bush for everything. Bush faced an event that no other president had the great misfortune of facing - a devastating attack on innocent Americans - and he responded with nearly full support of all Americans. 9/11 had a massive impact on every aspect of our system - cultural, economic and governmental. It is amazing that Obama supporters ignore that fact. They also seem to want to ignore that the economic meltdown was initiated by mortgage directives from the Clinton administration.
J. Robert July 8, 2012 at 03:55 pm
Part 2: Obama has been in office long enough now to establish his "hope & change" directives. He has failed. Quite possibly the most unprepared and unqualified individual in U.S. history was elected president because he gave good speeches and made appealing promises. Since he's been in office he has done more to hurt the American psyche and morale and undermine confidence than he has done delivering on his promises. The big one he did deliver is an absolute disaster - healthcare reform- and if left intact will have devasting affects on the future financial condition of the U.S. and its taxpaying citizens.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 04:13 pm
RB: "There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic."
The November election will be a landslide Republican victory up and down the ballot-that's becoming more obvious as the days pass. If Obama and the Democrats attempt to delay or prevent the election (as proposed by the Democrat governor of North Carolina a year ago), then it would not surprise me if the US military officer corps politely asked President Osama to step aside. President Osama has done more damage to this country than Obama bin Laden ever did-46 million Americans on the food stamp program and 12 million Americans unemployed-not even Obama bin Laden did that.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 04:23 pm
RB: "Oh the recession. That you can't blame on President Obama. Clear Fact!"
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (DWS), the chairwoman of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), told us that President Obama owns this economy. DWS is correct. President Obama told us he was going to fix the economy in 3 years or less and we're going to hold him to his word.
Richard Schulte July 8, 2012 at 04:30 pm
"In 2010, influenced by the Tea Party and its focus on fiscal issues, 17 states elected Republican governors. And, according to an Examiner.com analysis, every one of those states saw a drop in their unemployment rates since January of 2011."
Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/07/Unemployment-Rate-Dropped-In-Every-State-That-Elected-A-Republican-Gov-In-2010 The facts speak for themselves. . . . "The problem with liberals is not that they know so much, but that they know so much that isn't true." Ronald Reagan
HOLLY SIGMAN July 9, 2012 at 12:30 am
I hope Obama is not reelected.That would be our only hope of getting rid of Obamacare
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Dan Cox June 19, 2013 at 09:27 pm
RB, You do not understand Heller or McDonald or the Second Amendment. The Supreme Court never saidRead More we can't carry an RPG either! Wilson has been going on for over 6 years, but it will strike down Cook Counties infringement and we will once again...collect Millions in Legal fees.
RB June 19, 2013 at 09:54 pm
RPG was used as an example of limitations. To quote from the majority opinion inRead More Heller...."Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose"
Dan Cox June 19, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RB Yet, the Supreme Court has not deemed what that limitation is, because the writters of the SecondRead More Amendment, wrote it for the protection of the citizens, against a Tyrannical Government. If we want to really get to the heart of the matter, there is no limitation as to "WHAT" we may Bear, depending on the "purpose." Now if you wish to fall back on the Militia arguement... Illinois State Constitution, Article12, Militia..."Every resident of the State of Illinois, is a Member of the Illinois State Militia." Secondly, the Bill of Right's is for the citizens, not members of the Military, like the Army National Guard, obviously.
Steven June 11, 2013 at 01:19 pm
There is nothing historical about this house. The historical house was torn down in order to buildRead More a modern house which vaguely resembles the home that was owned by Lyman Wilmot. But calling this new construction "an important part of the history of Deerfield" is a travesty.
annette kalcheim June 14, 2013 at 07:39 am
Mara, So sorry you feel this way. We feel that this really improves the neighborhood. Tried toRead More keep much of old structure, but Igor's rehab and lack of upkeep, made it impossible. couldn't even keep floors, all warped from water and walls full of mold. City did nothing to stop Igor from combining two distinct properties. I am having a champagne lunch Wed. June 19, 11:30 to 1:30. Would love for you to come and see the house. Maybe that will change your mind. Annette Kalcheim
Mara Meyer June 15, 2013 at 09:33 pm
Annette - my first statement was "beautiful house" so I have no qualms with your outcome -Read More however, this is a re-do, re-creation not the original house. But good luck! I am sure you will find a buyer quickly!
J.Lyn June 9, 2013 at 06:10 am
I neglected to include contact information. Please contact Jennifer at : j.lyn.mclick@gmail.com